Sunday, March 04, 2007

pack your passports, we're going to New Orleans

I'm grading Intro Macro exams, and I came across a wrong answer so spectacularly (and depressingly) funny that I have to share. The question I'm currently grading is about whether certain transactions would be included in the U.S.'s GDP. One of the transactions is the U.S. government spending $200,000 doing reconstruction in New Orleans. This would be included in GDP, since government spending gets included (as long as it is spent on a final good or service, and not, say, as a transfer payment like unemployment insurance). Someone wrote on their exam, however, that this would not be included in GDP, because New Orleans is not within our national borders. Where does she think Louisiana is? Mexico? France? Or has she been living in a cave with her eyes shut and her ears plugged for the past couple years, thus never having heard of New Orleans?

At least I'm finally getting some work done. Grading is the easiest thing I have to do, but it's also the most boring, so it's probably good to get it out of the way.

195 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'd like to think that your student was thinking along these lines: since Louisiana state law is based on civil law (and, in large part, the Napoleonic Code), rather than the rest of United States (based on Blackwell's Common Law, thank you American Legal History), the US should in fact isolate New Orleans from the GDP (believing, of course, that the law is an important part of government). That and the fact that you can drink in the streets and the city is crawling with nutria (yes, people, I said nutria), and that the entire south is somewhat of an enigma, I think it's a legit claim. Take that, Nouvelle Orléans!

jenn said...

Yeah, I'm sure that's what this student was thinking about...the napoleonic code...

And I'm so impressed that you remember ANYTHING we learned in American Legal History.

You know, S suggested that I should give the student credit because if New Orleans were not in the US, she'd be right not to include it in GDP. I'm not entirely sure if that's true, because I think all government spending might be included except transfer payments, even if what they're spending on ends up in another country. I'm looking into that right now.

At any rate, even if she would be right, I'm not even going to give her partial credit. Although this is a macro exam, not a geography exam, economics, like most other disciplines, is not studied in a vacuum. If you don't know some very, very basic information about the world around you, your college grades should rightfully suffer as a result. (Am I getting old and crochety, or what?)

jenn said...

Yeah, I'm sure that's what this student was thinking about...the napoleonic code...

And I'm so impressed that you remember ANYTHING we learned in American Legal History.

You know, S suggested that I should give the student credit because if New Orleans were not in the US, she'd be right not to include it in GDP. I'm not entirely sure if that's true, because I think all government spending might be included except transfer payments, even if what they're spending on ends up in another country. I'm looking into that right now.

At any rate, even if she would be right, I'm not even going to give her partial credit. Although this is a macro exam, not a geography exam, economics, like most other disciplines, is not studied in a vacuum. If you don't know some very, very basic information about the world around you, your college grades should rightfully suffer as a result. (Am I getting old and crochety, or what?)

jenn said...

p.s. it drives me nuts that you can't delete comments. I guess that's what I get for becoming impatient and pressing the "publish your comment" button twice.

Anonymous said...

Maybe she was thinking New Orleans was in the same 'foreign' country as New Mexico?

Anonymous said...

Or maybe she's been focusing a bit much on this map:

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/11/con04485.html

Anonymous said...

hey, if was walking around where there was a bunch of nutria running rampant in the road, i'd need a drink to carry around with me too! not to mention the scary packs of feral dogs that used to be family pets before their families had to leave because of the hurricane.

if the rest of the poor girl's essay made sense and showed that she understood the GDP, i think she should get partial credit at least. i'm giving her the benefit of the doubt and guessing she skimmed over the question and when she read it she didn't register "new orleans," but rather "a french sounding name that i'm not going to bother to read all the way," because, really, how can you not know where new orleans is?!?!?

Anonymous said...

maybe that kid is a foreigner...
(being nice to students...)

at least you don't have students whose answer goes:

"So, supply curve shifts to the right. If this shit happens..."

well, my student may be harsh on words, he got the answer right...
I wonder why i've not answers questions like that before...

jenn said...

I considered that it might be a foreign student, but the name didn't look particularly foreign (although you really can't tell much based on a name). Dr. J said he did have one chinese kid come up during the exam to ask if New Orleans is in the US, so he wasn't surprised that someone else got it wrong. He said that if the girl complains about getting no credit for the problem (a 2-point problem in a 110 point exam), he'll give her half-credit. But we think (or maybe we just hope) that she'll be too embarassed to complain.

rebel- dwe made the same "new mexico" joke to me (and it cracked me up both times). great minds think alike.

mj-I see what you're saying, but I'm loathe to give someone partial credit for not reading an exam question carefully enough. maybe if it were a four-point question i'd probably give her one point, but it's only worth two, and i just can't justify giving her half credit when both her answer to the question (is this included in GDP?) is wrong and her explanation for why is mostly wrong.

h- I get occassional profanity on exams, but nothing that cool. someone wrote on the exam that I just finished grading that it would be better to be alive and unemployed than dead and have a job. I think he was the same one who, when he apparently couldn't think of the non-cyclical types of unemployment (frictional and structural) he came up with this: "some people are in jail, so they're unemployed."

Anonymous said...

Hey, people in jail work -- laundry, cleaning, lisence plates. They get like 19 cents a minute!

What you lack in economics, however, are the creative historical fiction I am privileged. One of my personal faves? The ID on the "Richard Dreyfus" Affair. Or when Jesus came down from Mount Olympus to give the 10 Commandments to Moses.

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